Geoff Johns and Jon Berg Discuss A More Hopeful DC Extended Universe


In an The Wall Street Journal, Geoff Johns and Jon Berg who are co-running the DC Extended Universe, the revealed their plans for the franchise.

Geoff Johns, who’s also the Chief Creative Officer of DC Comics, recently bought new life into the DC Universe by creating the Rebirth event for the comics. An event that bought back the optimism and hope that many felt was missing in the New 52 since 2011. This plan has allowed DC Comics to rise to the top of sales with over 12 million comics being sold in just a couple of months and the second wave is upon us with the announcement of Justice League of America title, with little signs of slowing down.

The same criticism that the New 52 was given was also given to the DC Extended Universe, as the characters darker characteristics were the main focus of the films with little bright spots throughout. Although, writer Chris Terrio had said months ago that Justice League would be much lighter film than Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, though Warner Bros. still decided to rethink their approach by having Geoff Johns work his magic from the comic book side of things and Warner Bros. executive VP Jon Berg from the film side of things.


“We’re trying to take a really hard look at everything to make sure we stay true to the characters and tell stories that celebrate them,” he said.


“Justice League” was already intended to be less depressing than “Batman v Superman,” but Messrs Berg and Johns worked with Mr. Snyder and screenwriter Chris Terrio to make changes after gauging fan reactions to the superhero fight.

“We accelerated the story to get to the hope and optimism a little faster,” said Mr. Berg.


“To have these characters be part of the fabric of pop culture is so rewarding, though of course we’re disappointed the movies weren’t better reviewed,” said Mr. Berg. He spoke from the London set of “Justice League,” where Mr. Snyder is a few weeks away from completing a five-month shoot.


As he is writing screenplays and working with Mr. Berg to develop other coming DC movies including “Flash,” “Aquaman” and “Cyborg,” Mr. Johns has pulled back from his work on DC television shows and comic books.

Rebirth may not only bring new life into the comic book world of the New 52, but it’s also bring life into the film universe. Geoff Johns is a man who knows these characters backwards and forwards, so as long as they aren’t making changes to try to please everyone and they are making organic changes that work with the story, fans should be more than satisfied.


Eric Curto

Eric Curto

My name is Eric and I am loving this current comic book boom, I was around for the first one with Superman: The Movie, Supergirl(being the first female and crossover film) and Batman and have been enjoying the resurgence since Blade. Can't express how much I cannot wait for WB & DC to take back the film universe but until than I love the TV shows we have gotten. I only started reading comics about 10 years ago but am connected more to DC over Marvel or any other major company. If you wanna chat feel free to contact me
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  • GAB

    People keep saying that the DCEU has dark characters, the only real dark is Batman. Superman, in MoS and BvS, is just introspective, Zack Snyder showed the psychology of the character. As opposed to what people foolishly and ignorantly says, Superman smiles a lot of times, just as a reminder, the movie MoS close with a smile of Clark and this is a pretty bright and happy ending. Wonder Woman is not dark at all. Suicide Squad is pretty bright, even if the main chracters are villains. We don’t know much about the other heroes, so nothing can be said. Regarding MoS, a lot of people are judging the tone because of the photography that is not so colorful, two completely different things. I think that the word used regarding BvS is completely wrong, BvS is not depressing, is deep and mature, just because is not all smiles and flowers, doesn’t mean that is depressing, the world is not black or white, there are other colors. People have to learn the meaning of the words, before use it. In BvS Batman became more hopeful thanks to Superman and Superman himslef sacrifice his life for the others, an extremely optimistic and altruistic gesture. Even Wonder Woman decides to come back and fight, even if at the end, she said that 100 years ago she preferred to stay away, after she saw the brutality of this world. The characterization of both Batman and Wonder Woman led to hopeful characters. Superman sacrifices his life, but now the world have accepted him, now almost everyone loves him, we see scenes of people crying in front of his sanctuary in Metropolis. “The night is darkest just before the dawn”. Superman have brought optimism in everyone, from Batman to the citizens of the city. Even to Wonder Woman, a woman who saw the World War I, a tragic and horrible event of our history. In that other movie universe of that other company, most of the characters are selfish, immature, disinterested about the welfare of others but no one say anything. We must remember that in one of that other movies, after NY was partially destroyed buy an alien invasion, the went eat something, without caring about the injured. There are also characters that they are so selfish that they don’t want to give to their friend an armor, letting their friend risk the life without a protection. DCEU is already about hope, but obviously a photography less bright and a tone more mature, is considered “depressing”, while a selfish universe, with characters with no characterization, that they completely change from a movie to another, without any explanation, is considered good. This is because of the hypocrisy inherent in some people’s minds, most aren’t able to see what there is, they see what they want to see. JL will obviously have a more “funny” tone because of The Flash, but I hope that will remain the great tone and style that Zack has created with the DCEU.

    • Xeph

      Finally, someone who gets it.